Healing Begins with Neutrality

We’re often taught to push past our pain—to skip over grief, avoid fear, and stay positive at all costs. But as Rebecca Rosen shares in a powerful clip from her podcast Small Medium at Large, “If you skip over the shadow, you’ll never get to the light.” In this conversation with her brother and 9 Lives co-creator, Dr. Baruch HaLevi, they explore a different path—one that embraces the shadow instead of avoiding it. Together, they explain how the Enneagram helps reveal our survival patterns and provides practical tools to move from reaction to response, from simply surviving to fully living. Rebecca also introduces the Hawkins Scale of Consciousness and shares why reaching a state of neutrality—not judgment—is one of the most powerful steps on the healing journey. This short clip is packed with deep insights on reclaiming your light, integrating your pain, and finding empowerment through self-awareness.

If this resonates with you, it’s just a glimpse of what Small Medium at Large has to offer. Explore other episodes to keep growing, healing, and living with more soul. 🎧

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